So this is the third thing that we've done with him. This was a project done with Robert Wilson, the avant garde theater director. GROSS: Now, this music started as a music theater piece? TERRY GROSS: Tom Waits, welcome to FRESH AIR. You can drive out nature with a pitchfork, but it always comes roaring back again. If there's one thing you can say about mankind, there's nothing kind about man. All the good in the world, you can put inside a thimble and still have room for you and me. The devil builds a chapel, like the thistles that are growing round the trunk of a tree. There's no milk at the bottom of the pail. TOM WAITS: (Singing) The higher that the monkey can climb, the more he shows his tail. (SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "MISERY IS THE RIVER OF THE WORLD") Let's start with a song from "Blood Money." This is "Misery Is The River Of The World." Waits wrote those songs with his wife, Kathleen Brennan. This month, on the 20th anniversary of their release, those albums are being reissued on vinyl with new, formerly unreleased live versions of some songs. When Terry spoke with him in 2002, he'd just released two lyrical concept albums, "Blood Money" and "Alice," which are now considered some of his finest work.
We're going to listen back to two of our interviews with Tom Waits. His songs have been used on the soundtracks of several films, and he's acted in the movies "Down By Law," "Short Cuts," Francis Ford Coppola's "Dracula," "The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs" and "The Old Man & The Gun." He was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2011. The darkness of his lyrics is accentuated by the rumble and rasp of his voice, a voice that sounded old even when he was young. The people he usually sings about are loners, losers, hobos, outlaws and drunks. There's always been an element of mystery surrounding his life. The New York Times once described him as the poet of outcasts. Tom Waits is one of the true eccentrics of pop music. I'm David Bianculli, professor of television studies at Rowan University in New Jersey, in for Terry Gross. If you’re flying from another airport soon, be sure to keep our other Premier Inn airport hotels in mind.This is FRESH AIR. Find all the best places to see in our guide to Cardiff and find top tips for flying from the airport in our Cardiff Airport guide. When you book at our hotel, you’re only a 30-minute drive from Cardiff City Centre, perfect for sightseeing and watching the waves roll by at Cardiff Bay, visiting Cardiff Castle or catching the rugby at the Principality Stadium. If you have time before your flight, take a trip to the seaside at Barry Seafront, visit Porthkerry Country Park or enjoy a stroll along Whitmore Bay. Get ready for your flight with a delicious meal at our in-house Brewers Fayre restaurant and, after a long journey, look forward to a relaxing sleep on one of the super-comfy Hypnos beds in one of our 80 spacious rooms. We’re also close to Cardiff City Centre, Cardiff Bay and Caerphilly Castle. Our hotel gives you the most convenience and the best views – we’re right next to Barry Seafront and Barry Station, and only a 10-minute drive or 30 minutes on the 304 bus from Cardiff Airport. Our Premier Inn Barry Island (Cardiff Airport) hotel is one of our closest hotels to Cardiff Airport, ideal for making your flights to and from the Welsh capital with time to spare.
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